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The J-3 Cub was produced with several engines, and the only basic differences were firewall forward. The Continental A-65 became the most accepted engine and most others have been converted to that. Thus, a J3F or J3L will often have an A-65 engine and may show that in the FAA Register, but the model may or may not have been changed to J3C-65.
  ATC 660, J-3, Continental A-40 except that cn 2309 had a Franklin 4AC-150.
  A-691, Continental powered J-3's:  J3C-40, J3C-50, J3C-50S, J3C-65 (Army L-4, L-4A, L-4B, L-4H, L-4J, Navy NE-1, NE-2) , J3C-65S, PA-11, PA-11S
  A-692, Franklin powered J-3's: J3F-50, J3F-50S, J3F-60, J3F-60S, J3F-65 (Army L-4D) , J3F-65S
TC695, J-3P, Lenape Aeromarine powered.
  A-698, Lycoming powered J-3's:  J3L, J3L-S, J3L-65 (ARMY L-4C), J3L-65S
  My O-59 and L-4 Grasshopper page is here. Many L-4's are probably civilian registered as J3C-65's.
TG-8 Glider: The TG-8, a three-seat glider version of the J3 is approved under GTC 10. My father, the late Chris D. Stoltzfus of Coatesville, PA, bought a number of them after the big war and converted some into dusters and sprayers. J-3 Cubs with a CN beginning with "G-" were TG-8's and are posted on the TG-8 page.
Slides: The slides are from my collection. Many are 30-40 years old and have some dirt and scratches, but I thought you would enjoy them. I have many more, and all are for sale.

Photos in sequence by CN
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  CN Registration and Notes
Piper J3C-65 N21638, 1938, with C-85, sitting quietly at 96WI Vette-Blust Seaplane Base, Oshkosh, 7-10

Piper J3 N24579, a 1939 with an A-40-4, in front of Father's "Stoltzfus Auto Body Works" in Sadsburyville, PA, about 1944. This photo has so much in it that I left it large for you. And here are two more shots taken just west of Sadsburyville along U.S. Rt. 30. I remember the barn with the "Chew Mail Pouch" sign. Years later a trailer park was put in just to the left of these photos and Elaine and I lived in there in our 10x50' in late 1961.

Note in the log book that the test flight was 8/26/39, with an 8/26 entry "Added tailwheel to equipment list." The Piper "test hop" pilot was Kenneth Kress, and who later joined the CAA (now FAA) and was based at Allentown, PA, as you can see on this letter on Father's letterhead. We lived in Parkesburg, PA at the time. Kenny Kress, as he was known, was a friend of Father's and I think he was the one who gave Father his "P" license over a cup of coffee one day. N24579 appears in my 1963 FAA register, but not currently.

Piper J3C-65 N24909, 1940, arriving at MD18 Horn Point Fly-In, Cambridge, MD 5-07. Later, taxiing out and taking off. It is very stock except for the Cleveland wheels and brakes.
Piper J3C-65 N26761, 1940, at the 9-07 "Tube, Fabric and Tailwheels" fly-in at 64I Lee Bottom Airfield, Hanover, IN. A pretty little Cub with oversized tires. I saw it again at Red Stewart Airfield, 40I, Waynesville, OH in 9-11. It has the Super Cub type balanced elevators. Nice!
Piper J3-C65 N30653, at Santa Monica 9-78. Still on the FAA register. (slide)
Piper J3F-65 G-TAFY, ex N31073, to G-BVPN in '94, at Cranfield 7-88. Those Brits come up with some interesting registrations! (slide)
Piper J3F-65 N12190, 1940 Clip Wing Cub at 40N Chester County Airport, Coatesville, PA 2-09. Also, the cockpit and a shot from behind. The wings are shortened inboard of the struts, giving the struts a much steeper angle. Built with a Franklin, now has a Continental A-65
Piper J3C-65 - G-BTBX, ex N35367, at Old Warden 8-93. Went to UK in 1991, to Germany in 2009. (slide)
Piper J3F-65 N35512, 1941, with Franklin 4AC-176-B2, after what appears to be a stall-spin accident at Boyds Corner near Parkesburg, PA in Oct. 1941. Father had bought it for $1200, with $400 down and 12 monthly payments of $82.40. It had 108-hours total time when it was "cracked up," as was said in those days. Note how the left wing is turned back, and the fuselage is bent to the left. Stall-spin fatalities were quite common in those days. Here's some registration documents. Father was a CPT (Civilian Pilot Training) instructor during the war and also operated a number of aircraft for flight instruction.
Piper J3C-65 N35523 1941, with a C-85, at Z41 Lake Hood Strip, Anchorage, AK 4-08. The cone looks like a dunce's hat, but the "Pratt & Whitney" decal adds a nice touch! It could be described as "well secured!" I saw it in a more conventional pose in 4-11, but sans ailerons. Hopefully there's nothing sacred about the way a Cub stripe is done 'cause if there was he'd be in trouble.
Piper J3F-65 N35525 1941, in a reflective mood at PAMR Merrill Field, Anchorage, AK 4-08. Also an "F" with a Continental. I saw it again at Merrill in 4-11. It's definitely a "long range" Cub, with three fuel tanks. I'd need a pee-bottle for sure!
Piper J3F-65 N38104 1941, now Continental A-65, feeling a bit "blue" under all those clouds at PAWS Wasilla AK 5-10
Piper J3L-65 N38262 1941 at Lake Hood Airstrip, Z41, Anchorage, AK 5-10. Built with Lycoming O-145, now Continental. Actually, the FAA register still says it has the O-145B but they are notoriously inaccurate on such details. Quite stock except for the Clevelands.
Piper J3C-65 G-POOH, ex F-BEGY, at Andrewsfield 7-80 (slide) Dark clouds behind the airplane and the sun to my back is one of my favorite photo settings.
Piper J3F-65 N77EC at Z41, Lake Hood Airstrip in 5-12. Obviously no longer a Franklin, and with a PA-11 type cowl and an electrical system. Let's go flying!
Piper J3C-65 N38794 at Lee Bottom, Hanover, IN, 9-11. It was a dull morning and my flash illuminated the dew on the wings. It is C-85 powered.
Piper J3L-65 N40817, another "L" with a.Continental, late in the evening in 4-11 at South Hollywood Airstrip, near Wasilla, AK. It's done in a PA-12 paint scheme as shown in this 7-04 shot at PAMR Merrill Field, Anchorage.
Piper J3C NC41428 was a 1941 Cub sprayer of Father's, as shown in this 1947 fleet photo. It was apparently a factory Cub (not built up from a TG-8 glider as were his Cub dusters shown there). Note the wind-driven pump and the spray booms, and the Aug. 1947 newspaper article. This July 1944 waiver was needed to allow him to fly during wartime. Note how it defines the area he could work in! There were many flight restrictions during WWII. (CN is interprolated from my 1963 FAA aircraft register)
Piper J3C-65 N41543, 1942, configured and identified as U.S. Navy NE-1 26278, at 64I Lee Bottom Airfield, Hanover, IN, 9-10. I've ordered the FAA file to see if it is authentic and if so it will go over into the L-4 page.
Piper J3C-65 N51533. Our family bought this Cub in 1956, freshly rebuilt, for $1000. It is the Cub I soloed in on July 17, 1957. For most of the time it belonged to my twin Karl and me, but my son Mark bought it a few years ago . It has recently been restored and is a real beauty. Late 50’s, N51533 at Coatesville, PA with our C-35 Bonanza N5865C and Grumman FM-2 N56MK, now N86572, and in 1958, Karl propping it for Father.
Here's a 2012 shot of it with a friends '37 Chevy; one I took for Preferred Airparts' 2013 calendar, just as the sun came over the horizon took; and finally the cover shot for the calendar, shown with my son Brian's turbine DC-3 which is used in missions and relief work. I left the last one big for you.
Piper J3C-65 N1946L at play on Lake Hood, Anchorage, in 7-04; waiting nearby for the floats to go on in 4-08; and then in 4-10 waiting for spring so it can get flying! Actually, I saw it again in 4-11 in precisely the same place so I'm wondering if it flew in 2011. It is on Baumann BF1500 floats and probably has a C-85 or C-90 Continental under that PA-11 type cowl. It also appears to have balanced elevators like on a Super Cub. Nifty little dolly there to move it from water to land!
  16430 1946 J3C-65 N91995, a photo emailed to me by Bob Reid, who said, "I learned to fly in this J3 back in 1953." The Cub was only seven years old at the time. Bob has some interesting photos here. Here's a 2011 shot I took of it at the Wood, Fabric and Tailwheels Fly-In at Lee Bottom, Hanover, IN.
Piper J3C-65 N92661 1946, landing at MD18 Horn Point Fly-In, Cambridge, MD 5-07
Piper J3C-65 N70497 at GVE, Gordonsville, VA in 5-11. Lots of people drop in on the weekends to hang out with Caleb Glick and other friends there. The thing sticking down behind the engine is a venturi, for suction for a turn and bank indicator.
Piper J3C-65 N70604 at Talkeetna, AK, in 4-11. It looks like its about time to take the skies off! The FAA says it has a C-85 and I suspect there's a PA-11 cowl under there. Note the extended and squared off wings and ailerons. Probably a fun Cub!
Piper J3C-65 N70656 with PA-11 or PA-18-95 cowl; balanced elevators; Clevelands and oversized tires, at PANN Nenana, AK 7-04
Piper J3C-85 N98081, 1946, with extended and squared off wings, and a C-85 and cowl at PABV Birchwood, AK 5-10. It reminds me of Garfield with a mouthfull of goldfish.
Piper J-3C65 N244PC at PAHO, Homer, AK, in 4/11.
Piper J3C-65 N4693S 1946, "Victoria" at MD18 Horn Point Fly-In, Cambridge, MD 5-07 No apparent secrets.
Piper J3C-65 N98286, 1946. This is one of the few remaining "working" Cubs. It's part of the Stewarts Aircraft Service fleet and is used for initial training and tailwheel transitions. This is how many Cubs looked in the 1950's and every cosmetic "defect" is actually a badge of honor for such an airplane. This is where you learn the basics, and many 747 drivers would wreck it. Yep, this one is for real! Well, it's time for a ride or some dual so here goes!
Piper J3C-65 N98413, with C-85 at 96WI Vette-Blust Seaplane Base, Oshkosh 2005
Piper J3C-65 N98445 1946, with a cowled C-90, sitting a perch at PAHO Homer, AK 4-08. Well-tied but still looking a bit tipsy!
Piper J3C-65 N98760 in early morning light, parked among aircraft for sale along the perimeter road between Lake Hood itself and Z41, Lake Hood Airstrip, Anchorage. FAA says it has a C-85. Nice Cub!
Piper J3C-65 N98875 1946, Alaska style with Lycoming O-235 at Z41 Lake Hood Strip, Anchorage, AK 5-10
Piper J3C-65 N6618H 1946 with C-85, tied up at Z41 Lake Hood, 5-10, a few days after the ice went out. And here's a 5-11 photo as it waits for the thaw.
Piper J3C-65 N6704H, a 1946 I saw at a little strip on my way to MD18 Horn Point Fly-In, Cambridge, MD 5-07. Two pretty Cubs on a terrible photo day. The one behind it is N42320.
Piper J3 N7291H, 1946 with balanced elevators; an O-200 and PA-11 cowl; oversize tires and etc., at PAMR Merrill Field, Anchorage, AK 7-04
Piper J3C-65 N2002M, 1946, landing at 52B Greenville, ME 9-06. Then anchored in front of The Katahdin, on Moosehead Lake. Later, taking off, and "see you later."
Piper J3C-65 N77500, is a Stewarts Aircraft working Cub. That stripe isn't very accurate but it sorta points the way for new tailwheel pilots.
Piper J3C-65 N3426K, an outstanding little Cub at Girdwood Airport, AQY, Alaska. It's truly a "Cub!"
  22120 Piper J3C-65 N3428K, at Chino CA 2-65. That's an interesting "one of a kind" paint scheme for a Cub! It's still on the FAA register. (slide)
Piper J3C-65 Cub N3548K, 1946 is based at Red Stewart Airfield. This 9-11 shot looks like "Herewego"
Piper J3C-65 N3650K, 1946, landing at 64I Lee Bottom, 9-07
Piper J3C-65 N3553N, 1947, with C-90, landing at MD18 Cambridge, MD 5-07
Piper J3C-65 N3644N, 1946, landing, and climbing out at MD18 Cambridge, MD 5-07. I saw it again in 5-11 at Gordonsville, VA, GVE. It's still the same owners (a husband and wife) and I want to tell you, we need to see this more often! Nice cockpit there!
Piper J3C-65 N1432N, 1947, with C-90 and a fuel tank in the right wing, at PAHO Homer Airport, AK 4-08. Photo 2 I first saw it in 2004 and by 2011 it was still waiting for some attention.
Piper J3C-65 N1586N, 1947, getting it right down in there and about to touch down, at 52B Greenville ME 9-06. Then taking off; approaching, with an eye on the 185; on the step; and the start of a new day.
Piper J3C-65 N1598N, sort of a beefy-looking 1947 with C-85 and balanced elevators, at Z41 Lake Hood Strip, 5-10
Okay, so what do I do with the new American Legend Cubs? Fact is, they look incredibly Cub-like so I'll include them here.
American Legend Aircraft AL3-100 N58388, at Gordonsville, VA, GVE, 1-8-12. The wood prop does something for it (except performance!) and they still have the old Cub gear. Only an expert could tell this or this from a 1940's Cub! It looks good in front of the old hangar and beacon there!

American Legend Aircraft AL3 N9FZ, at Gordonsville, VA, GVE, 1-7-12. This was the first Legend Cub that I had looked at closely and I was impressed. One of the first things I noticed was the door on the left side. I've been in and out of Cubs and Super Cubs countless times (it was easier years ago) and I'd have to rethink the procedure! The O-200 looks much like the A-65 and it still has the eyebrow baffles! Still "Cub" and I recognize "Sensenich" but wow - what's with that ground-adjustable prop? Actually, it sounds like a fantastic idea. This one has the pitch cartridge for 48" pitch.

Oh, it does have a door on the right, so I'm safe. And it's "Light Sport" meaning that it can be flown without a current medical. (But read the FAR's) Now this is different! Yeah, so much for "The way it used to be!" Note the location of the throttle and carb heat controls. And check out the new style brake master cylinders! The tail is very much Cub, including the horizontals, but it's hard to give up the old logo! Modern times, I guess!




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